It’s not every day that as a photojournalist and music fan in general, you get to interview a band that you’ve had the privilege of watching grow up, if you will. I was only introduced to these guys six months ago, when there were no record labels involved, there was hardly an album ready to record, and there was no guarantee about where the next show would be.
Six months later? Their full-length album is eagerly anticipated by fans and critics alike, a record label has scooped them out of obscurity, and there is no stopping Valencia. Without sounding trite or cliché, you should probably grab a copy of This Could Be A Possibility on October 25th, 2005 and catch Valencia every chance you get, because you’ll want to say you knew them when.
If you were a cereal box character, who would you be?
Henderson: Let’s see, I’d definitely be … oh man, that’s tough. I gotta think here … I think I’d be the Lucky Charms guy, because he spreads joy and cheer with rainbows. Who doesn’t like rainbows?
But isn’t that Santa Clause who spreads joy and cheer?
Henderson: Yeah, but the Lucky Charms guy does it with rainbows … and unicorns
Ciukurescu: [With no hesitation] Count Chocula.
Mind if I ask why?
Ciukurescu: Because vampires are sweet, and I’m really into chocolate.
In the VH1 movie about your band, who would play you guys?
Henderson: I would say that … I guess JD would be played by Brad Pitt. Or someone with muscles. I would be … the Sean Connery type of guy. Max; let’s see, who is a good Asian actor? Keanu Reeves would definite play Max, I can see it. Brendan; who is a heartthrob? Josh Hartnett, definitely.
Wow, you certainly know your heartthrobs to be pulling Josh Hartnett out like that – that was a little obscure, don’t you think?
Henderson: Well, I love the heartthrobs. George would be played by Carrot Top. Well you know, George is a little full of himself so I though I’d offer him a shot.
Ciukurescu: For me? Tom Cruise or Mel Gibson.
Really? Because you strike me as the Orlando Bloom type.
Ciukurescu: JD would probably be Arnold Schwarzenegger. Because he’s all about being in shape and Arnold is the muscle-man of the century. Brendan; I don’t know, oh man, I don’t know … Brendan and Shane are really hard … Max; Bruce lee, definitely.
Henderson: Anthony Michael Hall.
Anthony Michael Hall? Why’s that?
Ciukurescu: Because they’re both nerds! And [let’s] say Brendan can be Emilio Estevez. He’s really the Gordon Bombay of the band.
For you, why was it music?
Henderson: Well … music to me is like … it’s [always] there. It’s something I can fall back on when I have a really crappy day; it’s my release. I can have a shitty day, come back and play my guitar, and everything is perfect for me. It’s almost indescribable. I started out playing drums and I was horrible at it, and I saved up enough money to buy an electric guitar – this was when I was like 14, so I wasn’t working, I was just doing chores. I taught myself through the internet with tabs and listening to bands… but early on, my brothers sat me down and made me listen to good music – both of my brothers really instilled [in me] an appreciation for it.
Ciukurescu: Because it’s fun to do and it’s a good way to express yourself. And I’m not really good with that any other way … when we get together to write songs … it’s really cool. It’s something to feel good [about], and it makes other people feel good, so it makes me happy.
I know only from the Sacred Grounds scene that you have all been in a whole slew of different bands and lineups before Valencia was chosen … did you ever think that this would never happen?
Henderson: I always knew – I always surround myself with good musicians; I don’t waste my time … I’m not mean about it; but I’ve been really lucky. The bands I’ve been in have been really talented. I’ve always just been lucky enough to be in bands that have already had talent. When you’re in that kind of position, the caliber of songs that are going to come out is basically dependent on the amount of talent in the band.
Ciukurescu: I kind of feel like if we knew that we worked hard enough … we’re not really there yet, but we’re on our way. I always had this feeling that we work too hard to not get there. I’m really proud that Shane is in our band. When we got Max in our band, we already had a couple songs written and he ripped them about – he’s all about structure. And that’s when I realized that this was going to be really good and we were going to go somewhere.
The writing process, whether it’s collaborative or not, is still really personal, do you ever find it awkward to be sharing such intimate emotions with hundreds of strangers every night?
Henderson: Yeah, I do. Not gonna lie. But over time, I’ve just grown accustomed to it. The way it happens, I’ll write a song, and I just sing ‘em. And if [the guys] ask about it, I’ll tell them about it. I just throw it out there, and if they throw it back, you know… sometimes it’s weird, sometimes its not. I’m always passionate about whatever lyrics, though.
Ciukurescu: It’s not really that bad. For Shane, it’s probably really bad, because he writes all the lyrics.
What do you find to be the most frustrating part of being a successful band?
Henderson: You can’t please everybody. No matter what you do, you can’t please everybody; whether it is your family, friends, or your band in general. You always have to compromise to make it happen, and you do it if you love the people you’re with.
Ciukurescu: The most stressful thing is trying to have five people agree every time you try to do something. Even though we’re best friends, we still have different personalities and it’s tough to agree on everything. It’s always taken a lot of compromising and for some people it’s really hard to do. That’s probably the biggest issue with any band: making every person happy all the time.
Any regrets so far?
Henderson: Hell no – no regrets. No regrets at all. I don’t like to live with regrets.
Ciukurescu: Not yet. We’ll see in a couple years, how everything goes. Everything’s going really well right now, anything that could have gone wrong has been totally wiped out by all the good things that have happened, and it doesn’t even matter.
Forget 5 or 10 years from now, where can you see the band being in 6 to 9 months from now?
Henderson: Short term, I see us writing a new records. Hopefully [we’ll be] successful, and on tours where kids are coming out every night. 6-9 months is such a short time, but so long; it takes years to become what My Chemical Romance and Fall Out Boy has become – they’ve been playing since they were my age. I’m hoping that we’ll have an album that can jump start us. If not, oh well, at least we can say we tried.
Ciukurescu: Probably on tour; that’s pretty much what we’ll be doing. Hopefully we’ll be on big tours and playing for bigger crowds.
What do you absolutely love about all of this?
Henderson: Ha ha, that’s an easy question – I’m doing what I love. I’m getting to play music; that’s my childhood dream. That’s what’s incredible to me, is that I can do that.
Ciukurescu: I like playing shows, and have people watch me do stuff – it’s really cool that people want to talk to me for what were doing. And I feel like it’s brought me close to a lot of people because of what were doing. Not that I’m commanding respect, but I think it’s really cool that people listen to what we write and turn it into something of their own. Then they come to shows with that, and put that energy back in us, and all of that… seeing the energy at the shows and seeing people sing along; then you [know you] really reached somebody.
Henderson: I want to take it to the next level. I want to be in a successful band, I want to be in a position where music supports my life … I want to play guitar sing and record: all the things that make me happy.
Ciukurescu: I want to keep touring the country. I really want to go to California; I still have never been there. Hopefully, we can go somewhere like England … I want to keep getting as big as we can, and keep going places we never thought we could go. We went from not even having a trailer or van, and packing up three cars for a Friday night show … it keeps getting better; I want to go all over the world.
Photos by Allison Kennedy
San Diego’s Best Dancers: An interview with Allweather
San Diego’s rich punk history continues its next chapter with Allweather
San Diego’s alternative music history will forever be intertwined with punk’s mainstream rise through the 90s. While Los Angeles and the Bay Area took much of the attention, San Diego quietly produced a few bands that would ultimately rise to the top of mainstream punk. Now more than 20 years later, San Diego continues to produce as many excellent bands as it does excellent burrito joints. We are unsure whether it has anything to do with the sunny locale, or the food, or the proximity to coastal bliss, but San Diego punk is thriving. But don’t just take our word for it, just listen to the current crop of punk bands that call the area home.
Allweather are one of the newest on the scene, but their members have a long history amongst Southern California’s punk underground. They’ve just released their debut full-length Through the Floor; 10 songs of hard-hitting, melodic punk that at times throws it back to Lifetime’s emotionally charged output.
We spoke to Allweather guitarist and vocalist Tim Putnam.
Thanks for taking the time guys- new full-length in the books- how does everyone feel?
We are so stoked that this thing is finally out. It took about a year and a half to put this all together, what with full-time jobs and other adult-y obligations; but now we’re ready to share it with the world and it feels awesome. Definitely a labor of love with this one.
I really enjoyed the record. You’ve gotten some great feedback?
Everyone has been super receptive. Maybe they’re just being nice and telling us what we want to hear. But if so, they’re doing a great job! They’re saying some nice things!
I spent the first few listens trying to figure out that “sound”— because the album got me like a record did so many years ago. It took a few good listens but to me, it reminds me of Lifetime’s Hello Bastards and Jersey’s Best Dancers. At least that’s how it made me feel. I love those two records and I felt the same when I listened to yours. What are your thoughts on the different interpretations of the record or how it can make people feel many different things?
That’s awesome that you say that. I honestly love everything Dr. Dan Yemin has been involved with: Lifetime, Kid Dynamite, Armalite, Paint it Black. Contrasting dark vocal delivery and lyrical themes with more melodic/upbeat instrumentation is something I think we try to emulate from those bands. I’m hoping that makes for a record that everyone can take something away from, whether you want to just bop around to some pop punk songs or delve deeper into the bummer-ass lyrical content and see what exactly this dude is yelling about.
Who produced it and how did the writing and recording go?
So, that gets a little messy. The majority of engineering was done by our lead guitarist, Tony Estrada, who was our guitarist at the beginning of this recording quest. Tony left the band in the process of recording the record so Todd Allen, of Paper Street Cuts fame, stepped in to engineer what was left of the project. Mixing and mastering was done by Paul Miner at Buzzbomb Studios. All music was written collectively by the band.
It’s a personal record- songs about day-to-day life, ups and downs?
For the most part, I’m a fairly upbeat kind of guy. That’s because I have music as an outlet to compartmentalize any sad or angry thought I might have. This record is a collection of all our anger and sadness for the last two years. That’s pretty heavy. We’ve got songs about heartbreak, death of friends, and questioning the purpose of human existence. More ups than downs I guess.
You guys are relatively new as a band. Can you share with us a little Allweather history and how you got started?
I’ve known Aaron and Manny since we were teenagers. We all grew up about an hour and a half east of San Diego in a small town called El Centro, California. It’s basically the default decision when you’re old enough to move from El Centro to San Diego because it’s a larger city close to home. Aaron, Manny and I all ended up in San Diego by this logic and all played in bands together when we were younger in El Centro and just decided to jam to see what might come out. And Allweather was born. Tyson is the newest addition to the family, having joined our ranks on lead guitar almost a year ago, and the dude is a prodigy. He brings a lot of songwriting to the table and is going to be huge in shaping what Allweather is going to sound like moving forward.
What got you all into into punk and the music that became Allweather?
I think coming of age in the late 90s/early 2000s, punk was somewhat accessible. At least gateway-punk. It was very easy to get into Green Day and Blink-182 by seeing them on MTV, then hop on the internet and get sucked into the rabbit hole that is punk rock. Before you know it you’re on Limewire giving your computer AIDS so you can pirate “Maxwell Murder” at 20 kbps. 2 days later you listen to it and you’re like “Welp, I guess I’m a punk now.” Also, growing up in a small town like El Centro, you were just bored and had to entertain yourself. You started garage bands and booked backyard shows because it was something to do.
Let’s talk about the stop-motion video for “Life Vest”- looked like a fun video, but it looked like a lot of work. How was that to shoot? Why stop-motion?
Almost 1000 individual photos. 18 hours straight of shooting. For a 2-minute music video. SO WORTH IT. We had about a hundred dollars to spend on the video and stop motion seemed like a good way to add some class to our cardboard-prop-level budget. Luckily, Tyson took the reigns, figured out the math behind the whole thing and hopped in the director’s chair. All in all, we’re super proud of the finished product.
The vinyl/CD is out through Paper Street Cuts- how did you guys connect with Paper Street Cuts?
I’ve been playing local shows with Todd of Paper Street Cuts in San Diego for the last 9 years. In that time, Todd has become a real friend of mine and the band’s. This year Todd started making handmade lathe cut records for limited release through his label, Paper Street Cuts. No… like he cuts his own records. By hand. WHAT? Not to mention he’s an incredible human being. So, when Todd approached us about having our record be the first LP available through Paper Street Cuts, we jumped on it.
You had a record release show June 14. What are you guys up to next- back on the road?
We are going to be heading out for a West Coast USA tour at the end of July. It’s our first time touring and we’re pumped. More info on that shortly.
What are some of the things I should check out next time I’m in San Diego- food, music- cool record stores?
San Diego is the self-proclaimed burrito capital of the world. But it’s true. Best burritos anywhere. And where do you go to get one? Throw a rock in any direction and you’ll probably hit a taco shop. Some of our favorites though are Colima’s, Roberto’s, Rigaberto’s, Alberto’s…basically anything with the -berto’s suffix will be a win. For live music, our headquarters is Tower Bar in the City Heights neighborhood of San Diego. Honorable mention goes to Til Two Club, the Casbah, and Soda Bar. Tons of rad record stores but our recs go to Red Brontosaurus Records and Re-Animated Records.
The Down and Dirty: An interview with The Aggrolites
We chat to “dirty reggae” kings The Aggrolites about their new record Reggae Now!
It’s been a long time between records for Los Angeles reggae band The Aggrolites. 8 years to be exact. After countless albums and endless days on the road, the band felt like it was the right time to step away from the grind of writing, recording, touring. But the extended break between records meant the band just had time to get some air, recuperate and find the charge that would ignite that next spark. That next spark ended up becoming Reggae Now!, a collection of the band’s signature “dirty reggae” sound, packed with life-affirming songs about hope and positivity. And while the album isn’t afraid to challenge and question the current landscape we find ourselves in, it doesn’t shy away from having a good time.
The record has received some lavish praise, with noted filmmaker, DJ, and Big Audio Dynamite co-founder Don Letts saying; “Their tunes perfectly echo the human chemistry you can hear in those early Jamaican productions. The band’s old-school analog sound totally captures the spirit of the music I grew up on“. While Specials vocalist/guitarist Lynval Golding has said; “This is THE album.“
It’s easy to say that one of the most influential bands of modern American reggae is back. But the truth is, they never left. In between stops of their current North American tour, we had a chance to chat with vocalist and guitarist Jesse Wagner about Reggae Now!, how it feels to have written the record on their own time, and the significance of reggae music in America.
Congrats on the new record; how does feel now that it’s out?
It feels awesome. We are beyond stoked to see how positive the vibes are coming from all the fans old and new.
It was a long time between records- 8 years. It was the right time to take a break after 2011?
We felt so. We were going hard on the road for a good decade. I think 250 days a year can wear anyone out. We never quit though. We just needed some time to do our own thing with our families and friends back at home.
How did Reggae Now! come together- was there a spark that got you guys back into the writing process?
It just felt like the right time. We had talked about it for a while and when it happened it just worked.
Was this the first time you had the chance to write and record an album without the pressure of label deadlines? How did it feel that you could just write Reggae Now! on your own time- the way you want to 100%?
Yes it was. And it felt really chill and relaxing knowing that time was on our side. I wouldn’t have had it any other way.
How did you connect and end up working with Pirates Press Records? It seems like a great fit- plus their roster of artists is incredible.
I’ve known Skippy for a long time now and have been a fan of what he has been doing with Pirates Press for years. Playing the style of music we play isn’t necessarily an easy target to market. We knew Skippy and Pirates Press would know exactly what to do with our album and are all grateful for them.
For those who may not be too familiar with the Aggrolites- share with us a little bit of your history and how the band came to be?
We’ve been around since 2002. We all pretty much come from the same scene in Los Angeles and all have the same love and passion for old school Jamaican music. With that passion, the band has managed to keep it going ever since.
How has the tour been so far? You guys are hitting cities all across the US until August; how is touring and getting to meet and perform for the fans now than, say, back in 2002?
It’s been an amazing run so far. If anything, things are getting better. I think with the internet it’s easier for people to find out about certain genres of music. We’ve been getting a lot of positive feedback.
I love the video for “Pound for Pound”- where did you shoot it? How was it?
It was filmed in the San Fernando Valley at an equipment rental spot called Zio. Our friend Josh Rousch was the director and mastermind behind the whole thing. We had a blast filming it. So much fun and we were stoked to have some Aggro fans involved in the video also. That was a first.
Let’s talk about reggae- because it’s such an important genre of music (in my view) and I think some people only see it in one color. But there’s a lot of history and culture- how did you discover reggae and what are some of the most important aspects of the music and culture to you and the band?
I found out about reggae probably like the majority of the American youth from the early 1990s; punk rock and Two-Tone. The thing that got me stuck on it was how tuff of a sound it is, but at the same time so beautiful. It is by far the most interesting music I’ve ever gotten into. I love how they sang about social issues going down on their small Island, but how powerful the lyrics would be in relating to people all over the world.
Reggae, and ska and rocksteady seem to have a close relationship with punk. You guys have toured with and are close to many punk bands; what is it about the two genres that make sense and connects?
I believed it all goes back to the late 1960s when reggae became popular with the working class in the UK. It’s music for the people. Songs about struggle and overcoming it. Very rebellious music also. I believe Don Letts said it best that reggae was the soundtrack to the punk rock scene throughout the late 1970s.
How important do you think music of good vibes is in today’s world? I think maybe the world could use a little more Reggae Now.
I thank you for saying that and agree 100%. We’ve always said we are “Feel Good” music. Sometimes it’s nice to just play a record and have a good time. Especially in this day and age. There is a lot of corruption going on and hopefully, we can ease people’s minds from negativity with our album.
The Aggrolites’ new album, Reggae Now!, is available via Pirates Press Records.