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The Sound of Animals Fighting: Apocalypse Now

I don’t know where The Sound of Animals Fighting are going, but I believe they are going somewhere.



It is important for you to know, dear reader, that the Nightingale in the Sound of Animals Fighting is not actually a live bird. Though the male species of the nightingale bird are well known for their signing, the nightingale in the Sound of Animals Fighting is a human being, not a member of the Muscicapide family of birds.)

I usually conduct interviews from the passenger seat of my ’96 Honda Accord; lovingly, and not at all surprisingly, I call this my “office.” When I call the Nightingale, a member of the odd musical collective known as The Sound of Animals Fighting, he is also in a car. He is in a car going somewhere. I never ask where he’s going, and that sums up the feeling I get from listening to his music. I don’t know where The Sound of Animals Fighting are going, but I believe they are going somewhere.

The uncertainty about where The Sound of Animals Fighting are going can be attributed to their latest record, Lover…The Lord Has Left Us. While their first record, the Tiger and the Duke, was short and blistering, Lover…, is a lengthily collision between multiple sounds, languages, and musical styles.

“The idea for this new one [album] was to scale it back, and in a way we did and in a way we didn’t,” said the Nightingale. “We did scale it back as far as the core musicianship was almost all performed by the same group of four people, and then where we didn’t scale back was we had tons of vocalists this time. On the last album we had just tons of everything; if anybody wanted to come in and hang out, they could do it. But this doesn’t feel scaled back because even though the musicians were scaled back, the ideas were in overdrive.

“I think we just wanted to do something completely different [with the new record], and a lot of the stuff that we listen to is like Bjork. People do this in Bjork’s world, but in the “scene” or whatever you want to call it, kids aren’t necessarily used to hearing that sort of thing.”

The Sound of Animals Fighting’s unusual song-structures originate from an instrument not usually known for creating songs. 

“For the first album, the drums wrote the songs,” explains the Nightingale. “I got the best drummer I know and sat him in a room and told him to just play. With recording systems as they are now [in] digital recording you can go in and just pop up tracks really easy; but you can do it with analog too, just actually cut the tape and tape it back together which takes forever. But when it’s on your computer, you can listen to six hours of drums and make songs out of all the best parts. It makes the songs unpredictable, because now the guitars have to write to the drums, which is a more intricate complicated instrument. It’s a rhythm and the guitarist has to write a song to the rhythm instead of just writing chords. The end result is a little more unique.

“For the new one [album] we did the same thing, pretty much, except we stared with programmed beats, a lot of which were done by me and a lot were done by the drummer. So he was involved with the drum beats one way or another.” 

A short while ago, the various members of The Sound of Animals Fighting got together in California for a string of concerts. The concerts were not only the first time that the collective group performed their songs in front of an audience, but also it was the first time that most of the band have even met each other, said the Nightingale. 

“The shows were pretty involved; we had a lot of different parts, a lot of different visual aspects going on during the show,” said the Nightingale. “There was a lot to organize in two practices, but I really can honestly say we pulled it off, at least to the best of our ability.”

The Sound of Animals Fighting opened the string of concerts with “The Heretic” from last year’s Lover… After “The Heretic,” the band tore through the first three songs from their EP, the Tiger and the Duke, before playing the rest of Lover… before coming full-circle and returning to the Tiger and the Duke’s “You Don’t Need a Witness.”

“Our motto became, however we need to play it to be able to pull it off live, we will,” said the Nightingale. “Even with some of the songs, like with the electronic beats, we didn’t want to go too much with the laptop. We had one up there for certain sounds and things but we didn’t want to just play along with tracks of the programmed beats. So we actually re-created some of the beats using more percussion and drum circles. Like “Skullflower” we programmed the drums on the album, but we had about four guys on stage with bass drums tipped to one side to try to re-create the sound.”

Perhaps more shocking than The Sound of Animals Fighting being able to pull off their intricate songs live after only practicing twice prior, was the bands choice to lift the veil of mystery surrounding the members of the band.

“We didn’t play with masks on,” said the Nightingale. “We played as normal dudes. Everyone saw it. We’d like to keep doing the aliases just because its fun.”

The concerts also featured live interpretative paintings from Los Angeles painter Norton Wisdom, who has painted for the Grateful Dead, the Rolling Stones, and Cirque Du Soleit, and Oakland painter Aaron Nagel, whose most recent work includes the cover art for the RX Bandits’ And the Battle Begun

The attendees of the group’s four California shows should feel lucky because the future of the band is always in an up-in-the-air state. 

“In theory, I’d like it to go on forever, but because of the circumstances and everyone being as busy as they are, I don’t think that’s possible,” said the Nightingale. “I don’t know if there will ever be more shows – but one things for sure, I really do feel like things are good in threes. I like the idea of trilogies; Lord of the RingsStar Wars, all of that, it just makes sense. You have the album that started it all, then you have the weird album that leaves people hanging saying ‘I’m not sure if I like this band anymore’ but they would still buy a third album if it came out, and then you can do the third album which is like ‘we’re going torock you like a hurricane like the old style, but we’re going to incorporate the craziness of the new.'”

If the third record the Nightingale is pondering comes to fruition, it would feature a shift to their personal side that the band has not tried before. 

“We’ve discussed if there was a third one, it would be scaled back,” said the Nightingale. “It would probably be just the core (the Nightingale, the Walrus, the Lynx and the Skunk). And it would be less chaotic. It’d still be our signature chaos, but we won’t be out to drain everyone’s brain.

“This third one, if there is a third one, it will be the apocalypse.” 

For a band that has incorporated a ton of musical styles and an equal amount of members into their peculiar songs, it makes perfect sense that the bands final statement would be “the apocalypse.”


The Down and Dirty: An interview with The Aggrolites

We chat to “dirty reggae” kings The Aggrolites about their new record Reggae Now!



It’s been a long time between records for Los Angeles reggae band The Aggrolites. 8 years to be exact. After countless albums and endless days on the road, the band felt like it was the right time to step away from the grind of writing, recording, touring. But the extended break between records meant the band just had time to get some air, recuperate and find the charge that would ignite that next spark. That next spark ended up becoming Reggae Now!, a collection of the band’s signature “dirty reggae” sound, packed with life-affirming songs about hope and positivity. And while the album isn’t afraid to challenge and question the current landscape we find ourselves in, it doesn’t shy away from having a good time.

The record has received some lavish praise, with noted filmmaker, DJ, and Big Audio Dynamite co-founder Don Letts saying; “Their tunes perfectly echo the human chemistry you can hear in those early Jamaican productions. The band’s old-school analog sound totally captures the spirit of the music I grew up on“. While Specials vocalist/guitarist Lynval Golding has said; “This is THE album.

It’s easy to say that one of the most influential bands of modern American reggae is back. But the truth is, they never left. In between stops of their current North American tour, we had a chance to chat with vocalist and guitarist Jesse Wagner about Reggae Now!, how it feels to have written the record on their own time, and the significance of reggae music in America.

Congrats on the new record; how does feel now that it’s out?

It feels awesome. We are beyond stoked to see how positive the vibes are coming from all the fans old and new. 

It was a long time between records- 8 years. It was the right time to take a break after 2011?

We felt so. We were going hard on the road for a good decade. I think 250 days a year can wear anyone out. We never quit though. We just needed some time to do our own thing with our families and friends back at home. 

How did Reggae Now! come together- was there a spark that got you guys back into the writing process?

It just felt like the right time. We had talked about it for a while and when it happened it just worked. 

Was this the first time you had the chance to write and record an album without the pressure of label deadlines? How did it feel that you could just write Reggae Now! on your own time- the way you want to 100%?

Yes it was. And it felt really chill and relaxing knowing that time was on our side. I wouldn’t have had it any other way. 

How did you connect and end up working with Pirates Press Records? It seems like a great fit- plus their roster of artists is incredible.

I’ve known Skippy for a long time now and have been a fan of what he has been doing with Pirates Press for years. Playing the style of music we play isn’t necessarily an easy target to market. We knew Skippy and Pirates Press would know exactly what to do with our album and are all grateful for them. 

For those who may not be too familiar with the Aggrolites- share with us a little bit of your history and how the band came to be?

We’ve been around since 2002. We all pretty much come from the same scene in Los Angeles and all have the same love and passion for old school Jamaican music.  With that passion, the band has managed to keep it going ever since. 

How has the tour been so far? You guys are hitting cities all across the US until August; how is touring and getting to meet and perform for the fans now than, say, back in 2002?

It’s been an amazing run so far. If anything, things are getting better. I think with the internet it’s easier for people to find out about certain genres of music. We’ve been getting a lot of positive feedback. 

I love the video for “Pound for Pound”- where did you shoot it? How was it?

It was filmed in the San Fernando Valley at an equipment rental spot called Zio. Our friend Josh Rousch was the director and mastermind behind the whole thing. We had a blast filming it. So much fun and we were stoked to have some Aggro fans involved in the video also. That was a first. 

Let’s talk about reggae- because it’s such an important genre of music (in my view) and I think some people only see it in one color. But there’s a lot of history and culture- how did you discover reggae and what are some of the most important aspects of the music and culture to you and the band?

I found out about reggae probably like the majority of the American youth from the early 1990s; punk rock and Two-Tone. The thing that got me stuck on it was how tuff of a sound it is, but at the same time so beautiful. It is by far the most interesting music I’ve ever gotten into. I love how they sang about social issues going down on their small Island, but how powerful the lyrics would be in relating to people all over the world. 

Reggae, and ska and rocksteady seem to have a close relationship with punk. You guys have toured with and are close to many punk bands; what is it about the two genres that make sense and connects?

I believed it all goes back to the late 1960s when reggae became popular with the working class in the UK. It’s music for the people. Songs about struggle and overcoming it. Very rebellious music also. I believe Don Letts said it best that reggae was the soundtrack to the punk rock scene throughout the late 1970s. 

How important do you think music of good vibes is in today’s world? I think maybe the world could use a little more Reggae Now.

I thank you for saying that and agree 100%. We’ve always said we are “Feel Good” music. Sometimes it’s nice to just play a record and have a good time. Especially in this day and age. There is a lot of corruption going on and hopefully, we can ease people’s minds from negativity with our album. 

The Aggrolites’ new album, Reggae Now!, is available via Pirates Press Records.

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Everything Will Be Alright: An interview with Ogikubo Station



There is great joy in simple chords and simple melodies. It is, after all, the feeling of comfort that these things often bring. Comfort from the day’s burdens, comfort from the issues that disappoint us, comfort when the sunsets bring us joy. Ogikubo Station, the music project of Maura Weaver (of Ohio punks Mixtapes) and Mike Park (of Asian Man Records), is that kind of comfort. It is music that makes us think of the week we’ve just had, music that makes us want to do better in our every day, and music that makes us laugh, cry, and sing-a-long.

Fresh off the release of a new 7” EP Okinawan Love Songs, we chat to Maura and Mike about the new songs, making music from distances, and how Ogikubo Station came to be. The chat was a reminder that music can be the result of many things and many reasons. Some simple, some more complicated. It was also a reminder that if we’ve got the music, then maybe, just maybe, everything will be alright in the end.

You released your full length We Can Pretend Like last year- was there a catalyst that sparked getting back into the writing and recording again so quickly?

Maura: I think Mike just called me and said do you want to come out to California and do some songwriting, and then while I was out there he booked two days in the studio and said “Guess what? We’re gonna record a 7 inch.”

Mike: Is that what happened? Haha. I can’t remember. I know we had “Would I Break My Heart Enough For You” written and we were playing it live, so I thought “let’s just add a couple more songs and release a fun 7 inch.”

Did you write these songs the same way you’ve written in the past; from a distance?

Mike: Not this time. Since it was only a few songs we just rehearsed for a day and then recorded.

Does that process ever get easier, being quite far apart?

Maura: Not really. I prefer being able to collaborate in person and I believe that’s the plan for the next record. We started writing 4 new songs aside from what’s on this 7 inch to go towards the next Ogikubo full length.

Mike: Yeah, it’s not the best case scenario, but I’ve been doing with a lot of different projects over the years. Sending mixes and vocal parts and asking various friends to guest on records, so it’s not that bad actually.

Okinawan Love Songs

How was having Dan (Andriano) play bass on this EP? Will you be working with him again in the future?

Mike: I’ve known Dan since he was a teenager, so I just called him and said “Dan, I’m gonna send you a couple of songs for you to play bass on” and he was like “okay”. He has his own home studio and he’s kind of a gear head, so I knew it would be easy for him to do. I’d love to do more stuff with him, but I guess we’ll see.

Maura: Heck yes! I’ve been an Alkaline Trio fan since I was 14, so this is all kind of geeking out excitement for me.

For those who are new to Ogikubo Station – tell us how you ended up collaborating together?

Mike: Maura, you want to tell it?

Maura: Sure. So I was visiting the San Francisco/Oakland area where my sister lives and we were hanging out with my friend Danielle Bailey who is also friends with Mike. Danny had posted some photos of us hanging and Mike called Danny and said: “ask Maura if she would record a song with me”. So we drove to San Jose and we recorded a song called “Weak Souls Walk Around Here” and that was it. Just a one-time thing.

Mike: And at that time I believe I told Maura I’d like to put out her solo album and so for the next 2 years I would bug her every couple months to see how it was going and she would say “oh, I’m still working on it”. And then I finally said “hey, let’s start a project together” and thus Ogikubo Station was born.

How many bands are you in now Mike?

Mike: Kitty Kat Fan Club, Ogikubo Station, Bruce Lee Band …are the only ones that play, but I’m working on a couple of new projects. Always doing music.

Maura, how different has it been with Ogikubo Station than say, writing and recording with Mixtapes? Do the different processes give you new ways to write and approach songwriting?

Maura: I guess the biggest difference is the distance factor and that Ogikubo is not a full-time band. Mixtapes was my first real band and it was at a time in my life when everything was a first. First tour, first record, first van, the first van breaking down. I was still in my teens with Mixtapes and we all lived in Cincinnati. So it’s very different with Ogikubo. It’s hard to explain fully, but both bands have definitely been influential in different ways. But the basic idea of writing a melody over a strummed guitar chord is the same no matter the situation.

I love the TMBG cover on the new EP, and the fact that you chose to keep it lo-fi—what are some of the other bands you say would have directly led to the music and songwriting of Ogikubo Station?

Mike: I guess I’ve been listening to a lot of 80’s bands as of late and just kind of falling in love again with bands like Hoodoo Gurus, the Replacements, REM, and then newer bands like ALVVAYS, PUP, and Laura Stevenson. I’m always just looking for a good melody and some lyrics that aren’t filler bullshit.

Maura: I listen to so much music. From Kate Bush, TMBG, Desmond Dekker, Operation Ivy, to Beyonce and Taylor Swift. It’s hard to say what influences Ogikubo Station, but those are some bands I’ve been listening to lately.

Mike, I know on Twitter recently you’ve expressed your frustration and anger at a lot of the political things that are happening in the US (hopefully that’s not the cause of those grey hairs!) – but as songwriters, do you feel that it’s more important than ever to provide listeners with fuel to fight for equality and kindness, or do you feel that its just as important to provide an escape through music?

Mike: I’ve always felt music is political even when you aren’t trying to make it political. The sounds fuel the soul, creates the body to move and puts you in moods that you may not even realise are happening. Music has been my solace when it comes to expression and emotion. An outlet to get my ideas across in an artistic and productive manner. I don’t feel it’s imperative to be overtly political. I try not to shove politics down your throat, but if something comes to mind and I write about it and it happens to be classified as political, so be it.

Maura, you did the artwork for the new EP, an illustration of your Okinawan grandmother. The art is beautiful, can you tell us a little bit about your art and how you came into illustrating?

Maura: I’ve always enjoyed illustrating and painting. Creating art: With a guitar or a brush or a pen/ pencil. I wanted to draw my grandmother and give it to her as a present.  When Mike saw the drawing he asked if we could use it for the 7-inch cover. It wasn’t meant to be the cover, but after mike brought it up I said of course.

What are some of the things you’re looking forward to on this UK tour? You guys are going all over England, and then to Wales, and then Scotland. 

Mike: Sadly I’m not going on the tour this time due to some hearing damage I have sustained, but I’m still going to Brighton for a wedding, so I will be there for 3 days. And I’ll try to do every stereotypical British thing. TEA/MILK/FISH/CHIPS/MUSHY PEAS.

Maura: Getting to travel with my best friend Megan is the most exciting part of this UK tour. She’s never been before and that makes it that much more special being able to share this experience together. We are both Vegan/Vegetarian and one of our favorite things to do is eat, so we’ll checking out the different vegan spots in every city. And just meeting new friends, seeing old friends, and Edinburgh. I can’t wait to go to Edinburgh.

Is there a new full length on the horizon?

Mike: I’d like to work on one next year. I’m tapped out for this year. I’m gonna work on some new Bruce Lee Band stuff next and then I have a couple of other collaborations, but hopefully sometime next year we can start the process for the next full length.

Maura: That sounds good to me. It will give me a chance to keep writing songs.

Ogikubo Station’s new 7″ EP Okinawan Love Songs is out June 14th on Asian Man Records. Find out more about Ogikubo Station and their upcoming tour dates on their Facebook page.

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