JamisonParker: The Here And Now

JamisonParker may boast the least creative band name in music today, but this could all be on the account of the creative juices flowing through their music rather than their band name. In July, Jamison Covington and Parker Case released their much anticipated full-length album titled Sleepwalker, and have been touring to promote it ever since.

In person Jamison Covington comes off as an introverted young man who almost seems uncomfortable with the undivided attention thrown his way. Once he starts to talk about music that unease melts away, and it becomes easy to discern that this timid frontman is one of those musicians whose passion for music exudes into everything. So many musicians come off as arrogant or cynical, leaving music listeners with the feeling they are merely getting a half effort. One conversation with Covington has me convinced that he is not and probably will never be one of those people who put music into the world that he isn’t satisfied with. Talking to him is a breath of fresh air for all the people who are jaded by the quality of music today.

How did you first get involved in music?

Covington: My dad was a drummer growing up. He played in a band, and for the fun of it, I wanted to learn to play drums so we got a drum set. From there I got into just other instruments. I started playing guitar and that was kind of more my thing. I was in random bands, and didn’t really like the music that we had made or didn’t necessarily get along with the people in the bands. I started writing music myself and then moved to California to start a band, and was introduced to Parker who was actually playing drums at that point. If nothing else I needed to find a drummer to work with, because I am not a very good drummer at all. He was actually introduced to me as a drummer first, and then he and I just kind of started working together after that.

How did Parker go from being the drummer to playing guitar?

Jamison: He had been playing guitar for a while too. When we started I had a handful of songs that ended up being the majority of the songs on our first EP, that I had written a year or two before Parker and I had met. We got demos together and decided to revamp those songs and start demoing those. He started to play guitar with me on the demos and stuff. We kind of almost got put in the position where we didn’t have another guitarist, and then he and I started playing things together. For one reason or another we just kind of mutated into the two of us playing guitar.

When you were recording Sleepwalker, what kind of artists or musicians were influencing you?

Covington: Pretty much the same bands as always; Jesus & Mary Chain, My Bloody Valentine, The Cure and I guess a more recent band like Jimmy Eat World are a big influence. There are a lot of things that when we listen to that you may not hear anything that is an exact pull from one of those bands. Then if you listen to those bands and then you listen to our album again, you can more or less cite influences. I’m not really a fan of saying I love this band so let’s use this exact guitar chords, and just rewrite a couple of their songs with lyrics changed.

[On your biography] You talk about a notebook with pages filled with tuning, and just generally how much effort you put into making music, what drives you to push your music to the level it’s at?

CovingtonI don’t know, I guess I get really frustrated when I hear a lot of stuff being played now. It’s not even to say that anything that I’m writing is any better than anyone else’s stuff. It’s not an attack on anyone; it’s just my personal taste in music. Seeing the way things are unfolding with bands and with this whole scene that’s developed in general. It just kind of frustrates me. I’m not really that familiar with many of the [new] bands. I don’t hear a lot of the bands until we tour with them, because I’m kind of out of the loop with all that stuff. But it kind of starts off with me hearing some type of modern music and I’m just like I don’t like that, so it always pushes me back toward listening to all the old bands I really love. And then those bands are bands that if you read anything about them, that’s just kind of the work ethic. It’s always trying to push boundaries, and make some new type of music. This album that we have now was done; we finished that mixing it all that was a completed process last October.

The stuff that I just actually recorded some more last night, I’ve been demoing and the stuff is just so far past all that now. The next album is going to be in a whole different direction. I can’t see sitting down and just writing a song, there has to be more to it than that. You have to put everything that you can into it. I guess when I put everything I can into it, I can’t just write something that is just going to fit into what everyone else has, I know that the music fits in but at the same time its got its own personality. It’s just one of those things to me, where I listened to an album and it sounds like they set up a drum kit, used the same drum kit the whole recording, used the same guitar, and then finished all the music up and then recorded the vocals and that was it. I can’t handle all the songs having the same sound and none of them having their own personality. I kind of think about all the things that I really wish I could hear in music again that’s not being done, and so that I can one of these days be considered a part of the whole genre that pushing things forward.

I agree- music today is frustrating; you can’t listen to radio because everything’s exactly the same as what’s played before it.

Covington: I’m always curious as to whether people love what they love because they don’t know anything else and that’s just what’s given to them or that’s just because that’s easy and accessible or that just happens to be what the majority of people’s taste is. I’m confused on that. It tends to always be called indie music, but there’s not really anything independent about any of this. It’s weird; I always try to stay away from that when people ask what kind of music we play. You’ll never hear “indie rock” come out of my mouth. There’s nothing really independent about any of this anymore. Even the labels that people think are indie labels are all funded by somebody with money, some corporation is behind everything. The most you can hope to do is just make the music you love to make, and hope people enjoy it, and maybe you’ll change something in the process.

A lot of the lyrics on Sleepwalker have a romantic kind of tone, but instead of coming off cliché or sappy, they sound sincere. Is this something you are really aware of when you are writing songs?

CovingtonI write about whatever is happening to me at the moment. And that’s just kind of the spot I’m in when I write that song, I don’t really think it out too much. It took so long for us to finish this album, but the songwriting is actually always the quick part. It is more of like the things like the tones, and the actual tracking, and setting up, because we try so many things, we like to expand it with a lot of different sounds. But the songwriting, the songs usually come out really quickly. A lot of the stuff is an hour or so tops for writing a song. Just grab my acoustic guitar, and write down what’s going on in my head and then it’s done. When it comes to the actual recording of it that’s when we spend a year working on things. As far as thinking out how I want a song to feel I don’t know, I mean just grab a guitar and start strumming chords and singing along with it until something clicks. When it clicks I just go with it. 

“Don’t devalue someone’s real problem with a publicity stunt. It’s just kind of like we all know that certain bands write songs about being depressed or being dark or whatever, we don’t have to play the roles too. If you’re like that, just be yourself and it’s going to come out. If not then don’t fool everyone into thinking you have issues. Issues aren’t fun, and it’s not fun to deal with…” 

– Jamison Covington

You write very personal songs, are you extra sensitive or aware to people’s reactions to your music?

CovingtonIt’s funny because I definitely write personal, and everyone always wants to hear more details. I’m constantly telling people that I don’t talk about what my lyrics are about that’s left up to interpretation. It’s weird, I have split personalities about things like that, there’s one side of me that I definitely acknowledges how sensitive a situation is where if someone comes up to me and tells me the song I wrote is dog shit, then I will be “this is how I feel” and “this meant a lot to me,” so this person is telling me my train of thought, my thought process, is dog shit. But then a few seconds later it clicks in my head that if they don’t like it, they don’t have to listen to it. First and foremost, you have to write songs for yourself or you’re not going to write anything honest. It’s kind of like the whole if you can’t be happy with yourself than you can’t make other people happy. I try to focus on what I want to do first and then afterwards I hope that other people enjoy it and they find something important within that.

You’re a more subdued, timid type person- what do you find is most difficult about having such an attention focused career?

CovingtonI don’t know … everything? It’s pretty strange because I’ve always been the kind of person that likes my privacy, I prefer to sit at home or sit away from the crowd. It’s kind of how I’ve always been, I enjoy being by myself, but at the same time it’s a wonderful thing to be able to meet new people and to go all these different places. I don’t know- it’s just one of those things you have to figure out for yourself. I think the fact that I’m not terribly open about a lot of my personal life helps the situation.

I’m not trying to name any names or anything but I read this article and this guy was just spilling his guts about how he’s on tons of medication and wanted to kill himself. I’ve read a few articles from different bands like that and I’m just kind of like you’re giving all these people who have real problems that have something to focus on and work out. It’s almost like you’re mocking them. Everyone has their things that they need help for or whatever the case may be. Don’t devalue someone’s real problem with a publicity stunt. It’s just kind of like we all know that certain bands write songs about being depressed or being dark or whatever, we don’t have to play the roles too. If you’re like that, just be yourself and it’s going to come out. If not then don’t fool everyone into thinking you have issues. Issues aren’t fun, and it’s not fun to deal with- I don’t understand why you’d want to let everyone know all those things. It’s not something to be proud of it’s something to work on. It’s not something to be ashamed of either. Maybe these people do have real problems and they’re just really open. It kind of becomes like the cool thing to be weird and crazy. When did it become cool to have some type of psychological issue? That’s not cool, it’s sad.

In some ways it’s almost become a trend to do things like self-mutilate or things such as that.

Covington: Honestly, I’m a culprit myself- I have lyrics about that kind of stuff, and honestly if I knew then what I know now, I would have never written those songs. I feel like me airing out my personal business in that way almost puts me in that same category with the people that frustrate me for saying those things. I wish I could take it back in a way, because I don’t want to be one of those guys. I’d rather get away from feeling that way; I don’t want to dwell in it. Anyone who deals with those problems on a daily basis aren’t the ones wearing it on their sleeves.

What defining factor do you think has made Parker and you such a strong musical team?

CovingtonProbably because we’re complete opposites. We are so completely different; we have absolutely nothing in common except the fact that we like to make music. That probably has something to do with it because Parker tends to be the logical guy, and kind of keeps everything grounded and he tends to be the more down-to-earth guy. Things just happen to balance each other out because of our different personalities, and just the dynamic of our relationship.

Was there a period of time where you and Parker first started working together where it was more difficult for you to write songs with him? When did the comfort level increase?

CovingtonIt’s kind of been the same since we started. We are a little bit more open to argue about things now, whereas before we would kind of tiptoe around things with each other because it was so new. We’re not as afraid to just say things. We’re both critical of our own work and critical of each other’s. It’s definitely an upside I believe. As far as the writing dynamic goes it’s kind of been the same since the beginning I usually bring the songs to him with just the guitar, and we from there go into production mode and turn it into a full band song.  The structure possibly can change going from acoustic to full band, that’s where both of us come into play. The initial song I end up bringing to the table and we work from there.

Where do you think your music is going to evolve from Sleepwalker?

CovingtonI don’t know, I just keep writing period whether it’s ever going to be used for this band or one of these days for something totally different. I can’t ever really say. A lot of the stuff as far as lyrically is a little bit more toward the poetic side instead of just saying it straightforward. Anything new that’s been written tends to be on the poetic side. Music wise I don’t know, all the stuff I’ve done thus far has been just demos. Especially this tour we’ve been out with Waking Ashland for like a month and everything written in the last month is all acoustic. It’s hard to tell musically what direction it’s going. A lot of this stuff is getting more towards the sound of the last song on our album or track number four which is “Tearing Through Me.” Getting a little more dreamy and spacey sounding. You never know where it’s going.

What have you been listening to lately, and what book have you been reading?

Covington: I was actually just listening to the Tremolo EP by My Bloody Valentine. Do comic books count? I just got the whole series of the Walking Dead comics from Image. I haven’t read a book yet on this tour. I usually read, but this tour has been so insane with the schedule, we’ve had 32 dates and we did 16 in-stores, so half the tour we were doing two shows a day. There’s really been no time to do anything but play and sleep.

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